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Discussion in 'Turtle Behaviour' started by AliciaRob, May 23, 2017.

  1. AliciaRob

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    Hi Everyone!!!

    I'm so sorry if this has been asked previously, I have gone through some threads but haven't been able to find an answer as yet.....

    I have a new baby Murray River Turtle who is only a couple of months old. He is my first turtle of my own so I'm getting used to behaviours etc. So far he is going well (I've had him for a few days now). Loves his food and is quite content swimming and finding hiding spots etc. My question is.... how much is "normal" for these babies to sleep? I've checked on him a few times throughout the nights and he is fast asleep. I'm trying to get him into an appropriate day/night cycle as he is kept indoors (and unfortunately he was placed into the tank late at night so I wanted to create a cycle for him). The intention was to leave lighting on for 12 hours. However 10 hours in he is fast asleep. Should I reduce the lighting on cycle or perhaps just alter the time? Or are they nappers? (If that makes sense).

    Any info would be so greatly appreciated!!!
     
  2. Aussiepride83

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    Hi and :aftwelcome:

    Leave your aquarium lighting as close to the natural day/night cycle as possible. Turtles aren't strictly diurnal or nocturnal, they're active throughout both the day and night. It's completely normal to see your turtle napping during both the day and at night so it's best that you don't disturb it or its circadian rhythm at all by trying to influence it by manipulating your lighting schedule.

    Here's a couple of photos of my Macleay's having a daytime siesta.
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    "Do not disturb." It's normal for turtles to sleep during the day and night.
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    I notice you said your turtle "loves its food." Be very careful feeding a new baby turtle, they should only be fed an amount the size of their heads once/day. Overfeed it and your turtle is going to grow too big too fast and have a drastically shortened lifespan. Murrays are big turtles that require big setups.

    Here's an adult 7 year old Murray.
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    Here's a male/female pair of adult Murrays at 40+cm Straight Carapace Length.
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    NEVER feed your turtle frozen turtle dinners as they're extremely bad for turtles. The bulk of a Murray's diet should be aquatic plant material like valisneria, Elodea, azolla and duckweed.

    Do you have any photos of your turtle and the aquarium you keep it in? They would be great for us to further assist you.

    Below are some of the standard posts and threads we ask new members to have a look at:

    Please read the 'AFT Turtle Care Guide' :arrowright: AFT Freshwater Turtle Care Guide

    The following is essential reading Quick Reference Guide :arrowright: How To Set Up An Aquarium For Turtles and Feeding Guide

    Why you Shouldn't Keep Two Turtles Together :arrowright: Keeping Two Turtles Together

    To understand why we make the recommendations that we do in the Care Guide
    please read this informative post :arrowright: Why we make the recommendations that we do here on AFT Part 1

    Also, it would be best to familiarise yourself with the skin infections care sheet located here :arrowright: Skin Infections

    After that, you can read the Most Common Mistakes made by novice keepers thread here :arrowright: Common Mistakes

    If your turtle is sick or injured and needs dry-docking :arrowright: Important Tips for Dry-Docking Sick Turtles

    If you have any questions about why we recommend Calgrit/Turtle Grit and River Sand instead of pebbles and small rocks, please read this thread as well :arrowright: Gravel Blockage-Very sick turtle!

    How to measure the
    Straight Carapace Length (SCL) of a Turtle's Shell :arrowright: Measuring the Straight Carapace Length of a turtles shell

    If you have any specific questions after that, please go ahead and ask. If you want to search a particular subject, look at the top of the page for the Advanced Search link and type in the word or topic you wish to learn about.
     
  3. AliciaRob

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    Thank you so much for your prompt reply!!! I really appreciate the info you have given me.
    Just also wanting to clarify that his basking light should be turned off as well or should I be leaving this on?

    Definitely keeping track of feeding and only giving him feed as big as his little head and only once a day (although I'm still trying to figure out the time of day that is best if there is one). I am wanting to introduce duckweed but haven't been able to source it yet Thank you for the suggestion of plants and I will make sure the ones in the tank are appropriate. Is there a chance he will overeat these?

    I will post photos of the set up as soon as I am able to.
    Getting lots of great info here so I greatly appreciate it!!!
     
  4. Aussiepride83

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    You're welcome.

    Your basking light should only be on for about 2 hours in the morning, (7am-9am) and then on again for another hour in the evening, (say 1pm-2pm.) Turtles mainly bask early in the morning at sunrise to ramp up their metabolism for the day ahead. They may bask again late in the evening to store body heat before nightfall, your basking lamps definitely don't need to be on all day and definitely not at all at night.. There should be no lighting on in your aquarium whatsoever after dark.
    Aim for a basking dock temperature of 30-34 degrees C. Use a laser thermometer to regulate this. Too hot or too cold and your turtle will not bask.

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    Your UVB lighting should be on for 10-12 hours/day (mimicking the current season we're in.)

    Your turtle should have access to aquatic plants at all times, they cannot over-eat plants. It'd be like you or I eating too much lettuce. lol We couldn't get obese by doing that.