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Auskoi small pond

Discussion in 'Keeping Turtles Outdoors (Ponds & Dams)' started by Pizzuto, Sep 1, 2015.

  1. Pizzuto

    Pizzuto Hatchling Turtle

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    Hey guys, I am new to this forum and also addicted to turtles like all of you. I currently have 2 x Macquarie River turtles approx 2.5years (Hermione) and 2years (Franklin). They are currently house in my indoor tank setup.

    I am in the process of building a house near Camden NSW which will be complete mid next year and I want to build an outdoor pond for my 2 turtles and maybe more in the future.

    I have been looking at Auskoi as they are located in Bringelly which is very close to where I'm building. I like their small and medium tank sizes however trying to convince the missus to go for the medium size is tough.

    I was quoted this via email from Auskoi for their tanks and filters.

    Small pond : size 2.3 m* X 1.2 m X 0.6 m* ,**** Volume :* 1400L*********** Price :* $ 850.00

    Suitable Bio filter with built in UV & Manual sludge cleaning pump Price :** $ 700.00

    Medium pond :* size* 2.6 m X 2.2 m X 0.9 m ,* Volume : 4300 L********** Price :* *$ 1700.00

    Suitable Bio filter with built in UV & Manual sludge cleaning pump** Price :* *$ 1000.00

    Pond may take 6 to 10 working days to manufacture .

    Do you think the small pond will be big enough or will the medium pond be better? I have done some research and read other posts about sizing and depth needing to be minimum 600mm.

    Small pond will be $850 + Filter $700 + other extras..

    Thanks
    Matt
     
  2. Craig

    Craig Owner/Administrator/Public Officer
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    G'day mate and welcome to AFT! :aftwelcome:

    I have made many trips out to the Bringelly Koi farm myself and purchased a large bio-filter off them.

    I'd obviously recommend the larger pond because once the bug hits, and it will, you'll be cursing yourself for not buying the larger pond when you had the opportunity to so that you can have more turtles.

    One word of advice though before you buy anything, have a look on the net and yellow pages for manufacturers of large water poly tanks. They always have tanks that the tops collapse when in the rotational mould and they sell them as 'seconds', much, much cheaper than $1700. I had a 'seconds' 25,000 litre polytank delivered for $1,300 and all I had to do was cut the top off it.

    By the way, below are some of the standard posts and threads we ask new members to have a look at:

    Please read the 'AFT Turtle Care Guide' :arrowright: Care Guide

    To understand why we make the recommendations that we do in the Care Guide
    please read this informative post :arrowright: Why we make the recommendations that we do here on AFT Part 1

    Also, it would be best to familiarise yourself with the skin infections care sheet located here :arrowright: Skin Infections

    After that, you can read the Most Common Mistakes made by novice keepers thread here :arrowright: Common Mistakes

    There are also lots of questions and answers in the Beginners Guides and Q & A here :arrowright: Beginners Guides

    If your turtle is sick or injured and needs dry-docking :arrowright: Important Tips for Dry-Docking Sick Turtles

    If you have any questions about why we recommend Calgrit/Turtle Grit and River Sand instead of pebbles and small rocks,
    please read this thread as well :arrowright: Gravel Blockage-Very sick turtle!

    If you have any specific questions after that, please go ahead and ask. If you want to search a particular subject, look at the top of the page for the Advanced Search link and type in the word or topic you wish to learn about.
     
  3. Pizzuto

    Pizzuto Hatchling Turtle

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    Thanks for you reply Craig. I think I am going to go with the medium sized Auskoi pond which holds 4300l 2.6 x 2.2 x 0.9.

    What do you guys think about these complete setups using Auskoi ponds? http://www.biofiltech.com.au/completepackages.php

    I am not very handy so I prefer to get someone to build and set it up for me. The packages only show larger ponds, however it lists them as a complete package. I know it's expensive but will a complete setup as listed here be good for turtles?

    It will be going in the ground and I will do some landscaping around it for basking areas outside the pond rather than inside.

    Thoughts on the complete setup?

    Thanks heaps.
    --- Double Post Merged, Oct 21, 2016, Original Post Date: Sep 17, 2015 ---
    Hey Guys, still doing some research with ponds. I'm going for one of these AusKoi Ponds and wondering if anyone has any feedback on this Pond Filter.

    Hozelock Bioforce Revolution.

    http://www.rockaroundtheblock.com.au/hozelock-bioforce-revolution-14000uvc-1354.html

    Would this pond filter be sufficient for a 4500l pond that is similar to Allan's pond, however half in ground and half above ground.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Hi Mathew, my concern is that this compact pond filter will not be able to cope with the bio-load of freshwater turtles. Fish yes, maybe, but not turtles. The filter needs to be much larger with a lot of room for biological media like matting, pumice stone, scoria, onion bags and plastic swarf. The larger the surface area the better the filtration will be. Mechanical filtration and a UVC steriliser is not enough.
     
  5. Pizzuto

    Pizzuto Hatchling Turtle

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    Thanks for the feedback. I think I might pay someone to make me one of those bog filters or a wheelie bin filter like Allan's design. :)
     
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    Hey Mathew, be really careful with the wheelie bin filters. They don't last too long as they are not built to hold the full capacity weight when full of water.
     
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    But wheelie bins do make for fantastic woody colonies!
     
  8. Pizzuto

    Pizzuto Hatchling Turtle

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    I will pass on the wheelie bin idea then and will probably go with a fibreglass bog filter. Do you know of anyone who would be willing to make one for me in the near future. I'd obviously pay for costs and labour.

    I would like it to be neat and tidy looking next to the pond.
     
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    Hi Mathew,

    Aglass Sales at 16/1-13 Atkinson Rd, Taren Point NSW 2229 pretty much will make anything for you out of fibreglass. Contact them on (02) 95262822.
    They made my fibreglass pond for me.
     
  10. Pizzuto

    Pizzuto Hatchling Turtle

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    Thanks Craig I'll have to give them a call.

    I have come across this complete package. Any thoughts on this setup? I would have to go a smaller pond than this one though.

    Www.biofiltech.com.au/completepackages.php
     
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    Hey Mathew,

    You'll have to make some enquiries as to the depth of these ponds. They appear to be too shallow for turtles.
     
  12. Pizzuto

    Pizzuto Hatchling Turtle

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    That one is a 9000l pond. It's 1m deep. I was more interested in the filtration setup, whether it would be sufficient. I won't be going for a pond that big. I'll probably be going one half that size.
    --- Double Post Merged, Oct 29, 2016, Original Post Date: Oct 28, 2016 ---
    How about these fibreglass ponds with built in viewing windows?

    http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/canl...nds-with-viewing-glass-canley-vale/1128080870

    Their largest pond size is 3m x 1.2m x 0.9m

    Only concern is they look blue in colour and would the colour fade in sunlight?
    --- Double Post Merged, Oct 29, 2016 ---
    This is their design in various sizes. What do you guys think?
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    Sorry for all the questions however I just want to make sure I do it right from the start.

    The positioning of my pond would look best beside my house. I was just wondering if there is enough full sunlight.

    There is about 3hrs full sun from 7am till 10am then late afternoon there is about 3 more hrs of full sun on the pond as well of shady patches during the day if that makes sense.

    Would this be enough?
     

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    Hi Mathew,

    That sounds perfect. Turtles mainly bask mornings and afternoons and try to avoid the harsh midday sun. This would also help to keep your pond water from overheating.

    A blue pond would not be a problem whatsoever. Ponds are UV stabilised and you shouldn't have any dramas with it fading. It wouldn't be a problem if it did fade anyway.
     
  14. Pizzuto

    Pizzuto Hatchling Turtle

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    Hey guys, still haven't built my pond. Now thinking of digging up 3m x 2m x1m deep using EPDM firestone pond liner.

    I see heaps of Koi ponds using a bottom drain however would I be right to say this is not good for a turtle pond due to having substrate?

    I will have river sand around the pond.

    Still thinking of using a IBC tank for filtration.
     
  15. Craig

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    That's correct Mathew. As turtle ponds have a river sand and calgrit substrate you don't want a drain at the bottom of the pond.
    You could incorporate a short stand pipe drain but there would need to be a really good seal around the drain if you are going to put a hole in your EPDM liner, which isn't recommended.