Yes agree and believe me, I have been to every aquarium store in Adelaide North, South, East and West and I live in Adelaide Hills. Watergardens Lonsdale sell cheapest plants 5 bunches for $20 where others only sell three for $20. Pets domain sell 10 neons for $10 and $1 for rosy barbs. Seaview Aquariums if your looking for cheap plastic ponds they are cheaper than Fish Haven. Darren at Elite Fish is great, I bought my turtle from him 6 years ago but they are about fish. He does like the the turtles and they did inherit Gary who in fact was a female Short neck but no longer with us. They dont raise turtles and get them from a breeder here in the hills. --- Double Post Merged, Mar 12, 2017, Original Post Date: Mar 12, 2017 --- Kev your set up is the best but Vic is cheaper with a lot of things Adelaide small country town even stuff for sale on gumtree is cheaper over there.