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Eastern Long Neck - Puffy body

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  1. Chrisc

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    Looking for some assistance with 1 of our Eastern long-necked turtles approximately 2.5 years old. We have two of these bought at the same time, one is perfectly fine the other has been showing signs of puffiness on and off for about a month. Initially it was just the back legs, took the turtle to the local vet, she said eyes are clear, still eating and swimming fine and the puffiness appeared to be trapped air. Vet suggested keeping an eye on this turtle in a separate tank for a while which we did. The turtle seem to be doing OK, we put it back it the main tank, was OK for a while and then started to show signs of puffiness again, this has gradually gotten worse and the puffiness is show front and back. Last two days the turtle has stopped swimming around so much and is not eating as much.

    Main tank is 3ft long, with a Fluval 306 filter, 90cm UVA/B Globe, dock and heat lamp. Water tested today pH levels 7.4, Ammonia 0ppm, Nitrite 0ppm and nitrate approx 30ppm. The other turtle has shown no signs of illness. Pictures attached, I will be taking the turtle back to the vets tomorrow, but any assistance, advice on what this could be would be very much appreciated.

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    Hi Chris,

    You would be better off taking your turtle to a vet who specialises in freshwater turtles. It is definitely not trapped air inside your turtle.

    Unfortunately your poor little turtle has an Oedema (commonly known as fluid retention). Oedema's are quite painful.

    This is caused by one of the major organs like the kidneys or liver etc. ceasing to function properly.
    Treatment usually consists of an injection of a diuretic like Furosemide (also known as a "water pill") by a vet to treat the symptom. The organ that has been affected may slowly heal itself over time.

    Diuretics are used to remove inappropriate water volume in animals with oedema or volume overload, correct specific ion imbalances, and reduce blood pressure and pulmonary capillary wedge pressure.

    The above treats the symptoms but not the cause.

    Your vet will need to work out which organ has failed and why.
     
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    Thank you so much for your response, can you please let me know where I might be able to take my turtle.
     
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    What are you feeding your turtle and do you have any salt in the aquarium water?
     
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    Turtles are fed small fish (neons and tetra) live crickets. Frozen blood worms, turtle mix and brine shrimp. We have a little salt in the water, I have a tester so that I can monitor the salt levels as we did have an issue with that early on in our learning experience.
     
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    AFT recommends the following vet in Victoria.

    Dr Brendan Carmel BVSc MVS MACVSc (Unusual Pets) GDipComp CMAVA

    Warranwood Veterinary centre
    2/1 Colman Road
    Warranwood
    Vic 3134 Australia
    PH: (03) 9879 0900
    FAX: (03) 9876 6938
    After Hours/Public Holiday Emergencies, phone the Animal Emergency Centre: (03) 9803 8122
     
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    If your turtle is able to get over this hurdle and recovers, please let us know and we will help you work out what may be causing the oedema.

    Good luck with your turtle mate, I wish it a speedy recovery.
     
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    Okay, you need to remove the turtle mix from the diet and only feed bloodworms once every couple of weeks for the first year of your turtle's life only.

    What are your salt levels at in your turtle aquarium?
     
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    Thank you, I will call that vet and see how we go, hopefully not too late.
     
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    G'day Chris and :aftwelcome:

    Below are some of the standard posts and threads we ask new members to have a look at. Please pay close attention to the link about "Keeping two turtles together."

    Please read the 'AFT Turtle Care Guide' :arrowright: AFT Freshwater Turtle Care Guide

    The following is essential reading Quick Reference Guide :arrowright: How To Set Up An Aquarium For Turtles and Feeding Guide

    Why you Shouldn't Keep Two Turtles Together :arrowright: Keeping Two Turtles Together

    To understand why we make the recommendations that we do in the Care Guide
    please read this informative post :arrowright: Why we make the recommendations that we do here on AFT Part 1

    Also, it would be best to familiarise yourself with the skin infections care sheet located here :arrowright: Skin Infections

    After that, you can read the Most Common Mistakes made by novice keepers thread here :arrowright: Common Mistakes

    If your turtle is sick or injured and needs dry-docking :arrowright: Important Tips for Dry-Docking Sick Turtles

    If you have any questions about why we recommend Calgrit/Turtle Grit and River Sand instead of pebbles and small rocks, please read this thread as well :arrowright: Gravel Blockage-Very sick turtle!

    How to measure the
    Straight Carapace Length (SCL) of a Turtle's Shell :arrowright: Measuring the Straight Carapace Length of a turtles shell

    If you have any specific questions after that, please go ahead and ask. If you want to search a particular subject, look at the top of the page for the Advanced Search link and type in the word or topic you wish to learn about.

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