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Which lamp holder please?

Discussion in 'Heating, Lighting & UV' started by Squirt4, Aug 24, 2017.

  1. Squirt4

    Squirt4 Juvenile Turtle

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    I saw the basking lamp holder needs to be porcelain. But which size?

    Exo-Terra glow light porcelain clamp lamp have sizes 14, 21, and 25cm.

    Or there's a Zoo-Med wire cage clamp lamp.

    I'm looking at getting the Swamp basking spot Exo-Terra 75watt lamp if this will suffice. I take Squirt outside regularly for natural sunlight so wasn't planning to get the MVB one.
     
  2. Aussiepride83

    Aussiepride83 Administrator
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    The 21cm (medium) porcelain clamp lamp will house the 75 watt Exo-Terra Swamp Glo lamp. That's the combination I use.
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  3. Squirt4

    Squirt4 Juvenile Turtle

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    Brilliant, thanks! Putting my order in with Amazing Amazon and trying to get everything at once.

    Could I pick your brain also about a canister filter? It seems aqua one nautilus 2700 is the gold standard, which I will definitely get when upgrading to a larger tank...my question is would this be OK for a 4ft tank, or otherwise I was looking at aqua one aquis 1050. The tank is approximately 136 litres x 7 times per hour = 952.
     
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    That is entirely your call. You can't have too much filtration. The flow rates advertised are the absolute MAXIMUM possible with an empty filter. Once you start adding filter media, the flow rate drops significantly. I have my 500 litre aquarium filtered at a combined 5,300 litres / hour. There's no such thing as over-filtration.

    Your proposed Aqua One Aquis 1050 might only turn over 700 litres/hour once it's packed with media and starts to clog.
     
  5. smoyle

    smoyle Sub-Adult Turtle
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    If there's only 136 litres in your 4 ft tank, my hunch is the water level is either nowhere near your lighting or the tank isn't wide enough. I have a 4x2x2 and it has around 380 litres of water. I have the Nautilus 2700 plus another internal that does about 1000 lph. As Kev said, no such thing as too much.
     
  6. Squirt4

    Squirt4 Juvenile Turtle

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    Ah OK, that's good to know, I didn't realise it would reduce with media.

    And is it best to still run the internal filter as well? Just realised I was sold an internal filter for 100L so it won't be doing the job.
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    Good calculations! I didn't realise I was sold a 4ft fish tank. Squirt's still only 4cms. I will definitely be upgrading when he gets bigger.
     
  7. Aussiepride83

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    Yes, I run 2X internal filters on my custom 4X3X2.

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  8. Squirt4

    Squirt4 Juvenile Turtle

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    Oh wow, lots of power! That's a great help, thanks. :)
     
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    Matty-j Sub-Adult Turtle

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    My advice here mate, all too often people buy filters intending to upgrade one day. All you are doing is wasting money on buying a small filter now and then a bigger one later. Be patient, save your dollars and get the 2700 now and you will never have a problem with filtration even when you upgrade.
     
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  10. Squirt4

    Squirt4 Juvenile Turtle

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    Yeah that makes sense which is what I think I'll do. Someone mentioned to me though the 2700 might be too powerful and push Squirt around in the water because he's still tiny, but I'm not sure if I believed them.
     
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    It can tire little turtles out and contribute to drowning risk if there is a lot of current, but there are ways around it. Just have your spray bar turned so it is facing into the glass, rather than into the water. I actually submerge mine and hold it near the glass with a decoration (if you do this make sure there's no way for your turtle to get wedged passing by because they will squeeze into ANY gap), previously I had it suction capped above the water line but I found it too noisy.
     
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    Squirt4 Juvenile Turtle

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    Thanks I'll keep that in mind. I know what you mean about them squeezing into small gaps anywhere they can find!
     
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    smoyle Sub-Adult Turtle
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    Nah, the spray bar on the 2700 spreads the flow evenly, I've had a tiny turtle in there and it was fine. Having places for them to go out of the way like plants to rest on and driftwood to hide in helps.
     
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    I never had a problem with the current being too strong while using the spray bar.
     
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    Squirt4 Juvenile Turtle

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    How far away should the basking lamp be? I can see you have 2 set up at different distances Kev...this is my temporary setup until the tank finishes cycling. Initial reading of 24 degrees but I've only just turned it on.
     

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    The distance is guaged solely by temperature. Too hot, move the lamp further away, too cool, move it closer. Try either a 50 watt or 75 watt lamp until you get it perfect.
     
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    Squirt4 Juvenile Turtle

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    So an exact science I see haha, cheers.
     
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    It all depends on how cold it is in the state and suburb that you live in and also if it's a cold house or a warm house, so unfortunately yes, it is not an exact science.